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goldwater won the nomination, but lost to lyndon johnson. race has long been an issue, civil rights has long been an issue of debate in the republican party. >> can you contrast very goldwater versus -- very goldwater versus nelson rockefeller? >> many african-americans respected rockefeller. he had given some of the money from his own family fortune to the civil rights activist. he helped martin luther king financially. jackie robinson and others worked with him and saw him as a progressive force and a potential force on the national scene if you were to ever win the presidency. there was a strong support among some civil rights leaders for rockefeller, certainly compared to goldwater. >> didn't jackie robinson campaign for richard nixon in 1960? >> robinson had a relationship with richard nixon and he expressed some admiration. as did many civil rights leaders. our memory of nixon has been shaped by watergate. in the 1950's and 1960's, civil rights leaders spoke very highly of richard nixon for his work on behalf of civil rights and equal
goldwater won the nomination, but lost to lyndon johnson. race has long been an issue, civil rights has long been an issue of debate in the republican party. >> can you contrast very goldwater versus -- very goldwater versus nelson rockefeller? >> many african-americans respected rockefeller. he had given some of the money from his own family fortune to the civil rights activist. he helped martin luther king financially. jackie robinson and others worked with him and saw him as a...
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goldwater won the nomination, but lost to lyndon johnson. race has long been an issue, civil rights has long been an issue of debate in the republican party. >> can you contrast very goldwater versus -- very goldwater versus nelson , civil rights has long been an issue of debate in the republican party. >> can you contrast very goldwater versus -- very goldwater versus nelson rockefeller? >> many african-americans respected rockefeller. he had given some of the money from his own family fortune to the civil rights activist. he helped martin luther king financially. jackie robinson and others worked with him and saw him as a progressive force and a potential force on the national scene if you were to ever win the presidency. support amongrong leaders forights rockefeller, certainly compared to goldwater. >> didn't jackie robinson campaign for richard nixon in 1960? >> robinson had a relationship with richard nixon and he expressed some admiration. as did many civil rights leaders. our memory of nixon has been shaped by watergate. in the 1950'
goldwater won the nomination, but lost to lyndon johnson. race has long been an issue, civil rights has long been an issue of debate in the republican party. >> can you contrast very goldwater versus -- very goldwater versus nelson , civil rights has long been an issue of debate in the republican party. >> can you contrast very goldwater versus -- very goldwater versus nelson rockefeller? >> many african-americans respected rockefeller. he had given some of the money from his...
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lyndon johnson realized he was no longer in charge of the war. the war was in charge of him. >> what did you lose? >> i had a 36 when we started. we got 21 killed. >> what were you thinking about? >> i was thinking of my wife and my baby that i haven't seen, i guess. i got a baby coming in june. that was on my mind. i knew we were going to get overrun. >> if you look at the history of vietnam, it was a tragic comedy of errors from beginning to end. and the tragedy of johnson is that he achieved remarkable things, particularly in terms of civil rights, but will be remembered for vietnam. >> it's the full shakespearean wheel of fortune, the man who has nothing who rises to everything and then loses it all. >> in a moment of tragedy and trauma, the duties of this office fell upon me with american sons in the field far away, and america's future under challenge right here at home, i have concluded that i should not permit the presidency to become involved in the partisan divisions that are developing in this political year. accordingly, i shall not s
lyndon johnson realized he was no longer in charge of the war. the war was in charge of him. >> what did you lose? >> i had a 36 when we started. we got 21 killed. >> what were you thinking about? >> i was thinking of my wife and my baby that i haven't seen, i guess. i got a baby coming in june. that was on my mind. i knew we were going to get overrun. >> if you look at the history of vietnam, it was a tragic comedy of errors from beginning to end. and the tragedy...
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do you think lyndon johnson lied about vietnam? >> yes. i do. you know, i've -- i tried very hard. you know, in the case of bush, i actually was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. because if someone believes it, if it's a matter of conviction and they've persuaded themselves of something that's untrue, is that a lie? or do they just have misguided beliefs that, you know. and i tried to give bush the benefit of the doubt there. but over time, each passing year, i've decided that i was way too generous. and the -- i look at flatly -- did they make statements that weren't true? the answer is yes. did they decide they were going to willfully do that over a period of two years? and was it an orchestrated campaign? and it was false statements. those were not coincidental. if you look who said what, when. and the when, especially, is quite relevant. this was an orchestrated campaign. which, of course, scott mcclellan, the press secretary to bush, publicly essentially said in his memoir after our report, "iraq: the war card" came out, by the way, a -- and so i believe in both cas
do you think lyndon johnson lied about vietnam? >> yes. i do. you know, i've -- i tried very hard. you know, in the case of bush, i actually was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. because if someone believes it, if it's a matter of conviction and they've persuaded themselves of something that's untrue, is that a lie? or do they just have misguided beliefs that, you know. and i tried to give bush the benefit of the doubt there. but over time, each passing year, i've decided that...
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was it lyndon johnson, jimmy carter, or richard nixon? we're going to give you those answers when we get back.
was it lyndon johnson, jimmy carter, or richard nixon? we're going to give you those answers when we get back.
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the president said a few things here or there that were start or core, lyndon johnson core, lyndon johnson guided someone asked about dr. king, but they went out of their circuits. they went to the circuits to go after dr. king. that's where the story gets sorted and quite frankly disappointing and just depressing as the white house engaged the head of the naacp, the head of the urban league, went to these black leaders and they were saying to martin, have you lost your mind? lyndon johnson is the best friend we've had since abraham lincoln freed the slaves. he passed the civil rights act in the voting rights act. what are you going to bite the hand that is fed us? you can't anger, you can't get on the wrong side of the president who is our friend. so these black leaders came after him even in a way that the white establishment did not. everybody piled on dr. king. we all know 50 years later he was right about the war in vietnam. robert mcnamara, defense secretary at the time told a book before he died telling how wrong he was. it's amazing to me 50 years after the voting rights act and th
the president said a few things here or there that were start or core, lyndon johnson core, lyndon johnson guided someone asked about dr. king, but they went out of their circuits. they went to the circuits to go after dr. king. that's where the story gets sorted and quite frankly disappointing and just depressing as the white house engaged the head of the naacp, the head of the urban league, went to these black leaders and they were saying to martin, have you lost your mind? lyndon johnson is...
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who knows if the next shot would have been for lyndon johnson. johnson's car pulls into the emergency bay at parkland hospital. four agents reach in and grab johnson and pull him out and start to run him down one corridor. looking for a safe place. >> mr. johnson, his whereabouts are being kept secret for security reasons. if anyone knows where mr. johnson is, it is not us at this moment. >> it was a signal moment in our cultural history. suddenly it occurred to us the right thing to do is turn on the television. >> reports continue to come in but in a confused and fragmentary fashion. >> president kennedy has been given a blood transfusion at parkland hospital here in dallas in an attempt to save his life. it was odd because there were no commercials. it was just a continuous experience. >> two priests have entered the emergency room at parkland hospital where he rests after the assassination attempt which now was about a half hour ago. >> what are your feelings right now, ma'am? >> i'm absolutely shocked. stunned. we have the same birthday. i a
who knows if the next shot would have been for lyndon johnson. johnson's car pulls into the emergency bay at parkland hospital. four agents reach in and grab johnson and pull him out and start to run him down one corridor. looking for a safe place. >> mr. johnson, his whereabouts are being kept secret for security reasons. if anyone knows where mr. johnson is, it is not us at this moment. >> it was a signal moment in our cultural history. suddenly it occurred to us the right thing...
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president lyndon johnson signed these two pieces of legislation into law. without the leadership of lyndon johnson, we would not be where we are today. there will be no barack obama as president of the united states of america. it is fitting and appropriate that on the 50th anniversary of the passage of the civil rights act of 1964, we honor this unbelievable couple, dr. martin luther king jr. and his beloved wife, mrs. caretta scott king. they were my friends, my rother and sister. >> ladies and gentlemen, the united states editor for michigan. arl levin. >> thank you. good afternoon. the congressional gold medal resolution that we are implementing today commemorates the ability of an inspiring couple, armed only with the righteousness of their cause. we all commemorate today the ability of elected officials led by president johnson. armed only with the desire for justice, to overcome the divisions of party, in order to help overcome the divisions of ace. in october, 1960, martin luther king jr. road to his beloved coretta from a georgia prison 230 miles a
president lyndon johnson signed these two pieces of legislation into law. without the leadership of lyndon johnson, we would not be where we are today. there will be no barack obama as president of the united states of america. it is fitting and appropriate that on the 50th anniversary of the passage of the civil rights act of 1964, we honor this unbelievable couple, dr. martin luther king jr. and his beloved wife, mrs. caretta scott king. they were my friends, my rother and sister. >>...
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i had the honor of chairing the lyndon b. johnson foundation for 30 years. among the finest achievements that the current chairman and i claim is that we recruited the director of this lbj library and this three-day program is a terrific tribute to mark and his wonderful staff. [applause] from 1965 until the end of his term, i served as an aide to president johnson. on april 4, 1968, i had the sad duty of taking a flash associated press message into the oval office and handing it to president johnson that read, dr. martin luther king has been shot in memphis. our world changed that tragic day. president johnson had enormous respect for dr. king. they worked together to pass the civil rights act, the voting rights act. what we are celebrating this week, 50 years later. our panel is about as good as it gets. first, doris kearns goodwin, a pulitzer prize winning author, a former member of the lbj white house staff and one of the first members of the white house fellows program created by president johnson. joe califano who served as domestic affairs adviser --
i had the honor of chairing the lyndon b. johnson foundation for 30 years. among the finest achievements that the current chairman and i claim is that we recruited the director of this lbj library and this three-day program is a terrific tribute to mark and his wonderful staff. [applause] from 1965 until the end of his term, i served as an aide to president johnson. on april 4, 1968, i had the sad duty of taking a flash associated press message into the oval office and handing it to president...
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we're going to lose to lyndon johnson. >> and lose is exactly what russell did. on june 10th, 1964, the senate voted to end the filibuster and soon after pass the bill. on july 2nd, lyndon johnson, the unlike unlikely shepherd spoke to the nation before signing the bill and ended with a powerful message. >> let us close the springs of racial poison. let us lay aside irrelevant differences and make our nation whole. >> he does recognize and says, i have handed the south over to the republican party. >> he knew he was paying a terrible political price for doing what he thought was the right thing. >> yes, a terrible political price. >> thanks to the great robert caro. for more on this fascinating portion of american history, don't miss cnn's series "the sixties" a great episode on the civil rights act airs this thursday at 9:00 p.m. eastern for viewers in north america. 'rf business. when possibilities become reality. with centurylink as your trusted partner, our visionary cloud infrastructure and global broadband network free you to focus on what matters. with cus
we're going to lose to lyndon johnson. >> and lose is exactly what russell did. on june 10th, 1964, the senate voted to end the filibuster and soon after pass the bill. on july 2nd, lyndon johnson, the unlike unlikely shepherd spoke to the nation before signing the bill and ended with a powerful message. >> let us close the springs of racial poison. let us lay aside irrelevant differences and make our nation whole. >> he does recognize and says, i have handed the south over to...
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i'll tell you that. >> lyndon johnson was known for the greatest salesman one-on-one who ever lived. so he meets first with warren and says, if i asked you to put on your uniform and fight for america, you'd do it. i'm asking you to fight for america in a different way. then johnson has to get richard russell. >> mr. president, please. >> no. it's already done. it's been announced. >> you mean you've given -- >> yes, sir. i gave the announcement. it's already in the papers and you're on it. >> well, i think you did wrong getting warren and i know you did wrong getting me but i'll do the best -- >> i think that's what you'll do. that's the kind of american both of you are. thit's not the "limit yoursh hard earned cash back" card . it's not the "confused by rotating categories" card. it's the no-category-gaming, no-look-passing, clear-the-lane-i'm- going-up-strong, backboard-breaking, cash back card. this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, every single day. i'll ask again... what's in your wallet? >>> produced by nbc news whi
i'll tell you that. >> lyndon johnson was known for the greatest salesman one-on-one who ever lived. so he meets first with warren and says, if i asked you to put on your uniform and fight for america, you'd do it. i'm asking you to fight for america in a different way. then johnson has to get richard russell. >> mr. president, please. >> no. it's already done. it's been announced. >> you mean you've given -- >> yes, sir. i gave the announcement. it's already in...
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i'll tell you that. >> lyndon johnson was known as the greatest salesman one-on-one who ever lived. so he meets first with warren and he says, if i asked you to put on your uniform and fight for america, you'd do it. i'm asking you to fight for america in a different way. then johnson has to get richard russell. >> mr. president, please. >> no. it's already done. it's now, still. >> you mean you gave the announcement? >> yes, sir. i gave the announcement. it's already in the papers. you're on it. >> i think you did wrong getting warren. no way you did wrong getting me. >> i think that's what you'll do. that's the kind of american both of you are. i don't want to think about the alternative. i don't even know how to answer that. i mean, no one knows how long their money is going to last. i try not to worry, but you worry. what happens when your paychecks stop? because everyone has retirement questions. ameriprise created the exclusive confident retirement approach. to get the real answers you need. start building your confident retirement today. ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> produced by nbc news w
i'll tell you that. >> lyndon johnson was known as the greatest salesman one-on-one who ever lived. so he meets first with warren and he says, if i asked you to put on your uniform and fight for america, you'd do it. i'm asking you to fight for america in a different way. then johnson has to get richard russell. >> mr. president, please. >> no. it's already done. it's now, still. >> you mean you gave the announcement? >> yes, sir. i gave the announcement. it's...
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. >> lyndon johnson ordered that we immediately bring it to air force one. so there is a tug of war. they almost shot the crucifix off as they were trying to get the coffin into the hospital. >> one of the secret service men, well, about two or three of them got into the hearse and just drove off and left the rest of them just standing there. >> vice president johnson is expected to be sworn in as president on board of airliner before flying back to the nation's capital. >> not everyone realized that johnson was already the president, because he in fact had taken the oath in january '61, the same oath the president takes. >> johnson wanted to show the american people that the government was functioning without interruption. and also perhaps he wanted to show that his predecessor's family bore him no ill will for the assassination. >> lyndon johnson is flying back to washington to take the reins of government, at which time president johnson will have to take into his hands the reins of the most powerful nation in the world. >> we see november 22nd, 1963 as a
. >> lyndon johnson ordered that we immediately bring it to air force one. so there is a tug of war. they almost shot the crucifix off as they were trying to get the coffin into the hospital. >> one of the secret service men, well, about two or three of them got into the hearse and just drove off and left the rest of them just standing there. >> vice president johnson is expected to be sworn in as president on board of airliner before flying back to the nation's capital....
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the white house man said, well, everybody knows lyndon johnson was the master of the senate and lyndon johnson knew how to pressure his former colleagues, how to -- he had the goods on them, he knew how to get their votes. the historian says, no, that's not really what happened. lyndon johnson could have cared less about the passage of the '64 civil rights act until the movement made him care. i think what he was saying is, to borrow a phrase from bob moses, the movement made a space. the move was -- movement was the earned insurgency. so where does that take us now? well, it takes us back to my complaint about anniversaries. because just as the johnson memorials of this week, all of this celebration of this week is talking about the wonders of the man, he didn't like me too much either, so we're even. [ laughter ] >> no, no, you can tell that story. there is a story. anyway, you know, unfortunately, anniversaries can become a part of reducing history to little more than just sound bites, and sent i mental its. why does it matter? you as historians know better than i do if we don't kno
the white house man said, well, everybody knows lyndon johnson was the master of the senate and lyndon johnson knew how to pressure his former colleagues, how to -- he had the goods on them, he knew how to get their votes. the historian says, no, that's not really what happened. lyndon johnson could have cared less about the passage of the '64 civil rights act until the movement made him care. i think what he was saying is, to borrow a phrase from bob moses, the movement made a space. the move...
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i had the honor of chairing the lyndon b. johnson foundation for 30 years. among the finest achievements that the current chairman and i recruited thewe andctor of this lbj library this three-day program is a terrific tribute to mark and his wonderful staff. [applause]
i had the honor of chairing the lyndon b. johnson foundation for 30 years. among the finest achievements that the current chairman and i recruited thewe andctor of this lbj library this three-day program is a terrific tribute to mark and his wonderful staff. [applause]
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the incumbent lyndon johnson was assured of nomination. the republicans battled over which candidate would face him in the november election. in hindsight, we know that candidate was barry goldwater, the senator from arizona. but as republicans headed to the california primary, no one knew the outcome. henry cabot lodge junior had grown strong in the early primaries winning the first five. by april, nelson rockefeller had emerged as a strong contender. not until mid-may did the tide finally turning goldwater's favor. the california primary made his nomination all but certain. the primary season highlighted deep divisions in the republican party and in dirksen's senate caucus. it also proved to be a major headache for civil rights proponents with senators dispersed around the country and republicans preoccupied with presidential politics, it was difficult to maintain an accurate vote count. even more troublesome was the fact that barry goldwater was among those who opposed cloture in all situations. in the wake of his primary win in califor
the incumbent lyndon johnson was assured of nomination. the republicans battled over which candidate would face him in the november election. in hindsight, we know that candidate was barry goldwater, the senator from arizona. but as republicans headed to the california primary, no one knew the outcome. henry cabot lodge junior had grown strong in the early primaries winning the first five. by april, nelson rockefeller had emerged as a strong contender. not until mid-may did the tide finally...
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within a week after the time i arrived at the naval academy lyndon johnson signed the civil rights act of 1964 and within six weeks we have the gulf of time to incident in vietnam which began the escalation of the war in vietnam. the four years that i was at the naval academy in addition to learning how to live what is called the marble monastery, the world of restrictions as a service academy we also watched our country go through an enormous amount of turmoil from that. a 1964 to 1968. the civil rights movement became more violent and reached its apex a couple of months before we graduated when martin luther king was assassinated in april, two months almost to the day before we graduated. the vietnam war became more heated. it reached its apex with the tet offensive in the end of january and beginning of january 1968. lyndon johnson decided not to run for re-election as president drawing our political process into turmoil. that night we graduated robert kennedy was assassinated. this was just an incredible four years and yet the focus that we had with the people in my class and i thi
within a week after the time i arrived at the naval academy lyndon johnson signed the civil rights act of 1964 and within six weeks we have the gulf of time to incident in vietnam which began the escalation of the war in vietnam. the four years that i was at the naval academy in addition to learning how to live what is called the marble monastery, the world of restrictions as a service academy we also watched our country go through an enormous amount of turmoil from that. a 1964 to 1968. the...
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. >> lyndon johnson wasn't that widely known in the country at large. johnson's aides say to him in this speech don't fight for civil rights. that's a noble cause, but it's a lost cause. you know what johnson says to them? well, what the hell is the presidency for then? >> no memorial orration or eulogy could more eloquently honor president kennedy's memory than the earliest passage of the civil rights bill for which he fought so long. >> johnson gets that civil rights bill moving in the first few weeks after kennedy's assassination. >> dixiecrats led by richard russell announced a filibuster. that is they would continue to talk and prevent the bill from coming forward for a straight up our down vote. >> this bill which we feel is a perversion of the american way of life and a great blow at the right of dominion over private property that has been the genesis of our greatness. >> lbj and his allies knew they were short. so thus began a 24/7 campaign. he bullied. he cajoled. he made deals in order to get enough senators on board. >> surprisingly, after a
. >> lyndon johnson wasn't that widely known in the country at large. johnson's aides say to him in this speech don't fight for civil rights. that's a noble cause, but it's a lost cause. you know what johnson says to them? well, what the hell is the presidency for then? >> no memorial orration or eulogy could more eloquently honor president kennedy's memory than the earliest passage of the civil rights bill for which he fought so long. >> johnson gets that civil rights bill...
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johnson was going to be nominated. he wanted it to be a coronation. >> ifill: you shut it down. yeah, and it's one of the most incredible pieces of the film and we were shocked to find that lyndon johnson recorded all his phone calls and there's audio of him wheeling and dealing to stop this alternate delegation to the convention and it's amazing. >> ifill: bob moses, as you look back 50 years later, do you think you awakened a sleeping giant? the voting rights act came to be the very next year, you got certainly a level of attention paid to something that people had ignored so long. >> to sell you the truth -- to tell you the truth, i think what we did as capping a constitutional era in which white supremacy and black subordination ruled not just in mississippi but across the country. and we were part of the events that actually brought that constitutional era to an end. i'm not going to say what era we're in, now, right, but that constitutional era is over. >> ifill: well, let me ask rita bender, what era are we in n
johnson was going to be nominated. he wanted it to be a coronation. >> ifill: you shut it down. yeah, and it's one of the most incredible pieces of the film and we were shocked to find that lyndon johnson recorded all his phone calls and there's audio of him wheeling and dealing to stop this alternate delegation to the convention and it's amazing. >> ifill: bob moses, as you look back 50 years later, do you think you awakened a sleeping giant? the voting rights act came to be the...
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or lyndon johnson and self. one reason there is so much .oubts is why we do not know why he did it. is one of the failures. to this day we do not know why he assassinated john f. kennedy. if you want to impress the russians because they thought he was nothing? no. he turned his back he thought it was corrupt. ad he want to truth himself revolutionary? i don't think so. did he want and to connect himself to history? was he one of our first real killers that wanted to possess the iridescent grammar? how about this? years, is this the x one nation? questionat explanation ricky did it because he was an evil man. it is human nature to believe in conspiracy theories. conspiracy placed theories behind misfortunes. we do not want to believe that one man can do something that will change our destiny in such a way. if john kennedy can be struck down, what chance to people like us have to conduct their own lives? plans do not work. james did not happen. we do not want to believe that is what happened to john kennedy. we need to see a larger plan behind our misfortunes. we see the great humanit
or lyndon johnson and self. one reason there is so much .oubts is why we do not know why he did it. is one of the failures. to this day we do not know why he assassinated john f. kennedy. if you want to impress the russians because they thought he was nothing? no. he turned his back he thought it was corrupt. ad he want to truth himself revolutionary? i don't think so. did he want and to connect himself to history? was he one of our first real killers that wanted to possess the iridescent...
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johnson signed the civil rights act. a turning point in the struggle for equal rightsp a struggle that americans followed on the evening news broadcasts of the new media television. this is our "face the nation" flashback. in 1954, the supreme court ordered schools desegregated and three years later president eisenhower sent federal troops to enforeintegration of the schools. but it wasn't until a year after that, that the first african-american, the head of the n.a.a.c.p. appeared on "face the nation". >> the questions reflected the at constitute of many white americans at the time. blacks felt wanted too much too soon. >> why this haste on your part? because it's too long there are two million negro children at the end of each segregated school year is being denied an opportunity to prepare properly for life. >> the movement gathered momentum in the 60s and we saw the horror of the police dogs in birmingham as a young reporter i saw the violence at ol' miss when james meredith became the first african-american to enrol
johnson signed the civil rights act. a turning point in the struggle for equal rightsp a struggle that americans followed on the evening news broadcasts of the new media television. this is our "face the nation" flashback. in 1954, the supreme court ordered schools desegregated and three years later president eisenhower sent federal troops to enforeintegration of the schools. but it wasn't until a year after that, that the first african-american, the head of the n.a.a.c.p. appeared on...
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lyndon johnson, expressing rage at his detractors, when off prompter. this isn't anything new. what are you discerning from what he says when he is just winging it? >> well, his truth feelings about fox come out and true feelings -- >> i thought he was just talking about o'reilly. >> he wasn't talking about you. and people are human. when you go off script you can make some mistakes and wish you hadn't said certain things but this does reveal what he truly thinks about different things, and -- >> what does that mean? if this how he truly feels he is more or less saying we're truly not going to make much progress on these issues because we're miles apart. >> that's what he really thinks, but actions speak louder than words and what strikes me about the obama's relationship with congress is that you don't see any or hear any behind the scenes, they're making phone calls or having john boehner over for dinner -- >> the ronald reagan, tip o'neill stuff. >> ronald reagan was able to get 63 democrats to vote for his economic package because hoe got on the phone and called them and en
lyndon johnson, expressing rage at his detractors, when off prompter. this isn't anything new. what are you discerning from what he says when he is just winging it? >> well, his truth feelings about fox come out and true feelings -- >> i thought he was just talking about o'reilly. >> he wasn't talking about you. and people are human. when you go off script you can make some mistakes and wish you hadn't said certain things but this does reveal what he truly thinks about...